tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post115601947292533580..comments2023-10-01T08:23:21.245-05:00Comments on Ironic Teachings: "Why Do You Hate America?"Ironichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16566681411984508527noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1158652478207381732006-09-19T02:54:00.000-05:002006-09-19T02:54:00.000-05:00hey leab: i feel yer pain, dude...i live close to ...hey leab: i feel yer pain, dude...i live close to raymore and it's a dump...sorry you had to go through all that crap. at least you stuck to yer guns and tried to help someone who needed yer help. and yer wife must be super cool in order for you to not just go to missouri but to friggin drive there...i know that drive, dude. ain't no good. peace and good luck to you and yours.soloscottreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06255448861192395773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156255340645075112006-08-22T09:02:00.000-05:002006-08-22T09:02:00.000-05:00It wasn't meant for you, it was a question for Jes...It wasn't meant for you, it was a question for Jessifeseabs. If people who go on the offensive are'nt aware then what of people who go on the defensive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156210887967018482006-08-21T20:41:00.000-05:002006-08-21T20:41:00.000-05:00I sure you hope you don't mean me, Dennis.I unders...I sure you hope you don't mean me, Dennis.<BR/>I understand the issues, but I really don't like it when someone "pokes the proverbial bear" for fun.<BR/><BR/>That being said, you do have a point. Some people charge to the defensive right away.Ironichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16566681411984508527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156194178681152092006-08-21T16:02:00.000-05:002006-08-21T16:02:00.000-05:00"Usually people who immediately go on the offensiv..."Usually people who immediately go on the offensive like that do so because they actually aren't aware enough of the issues to be able to engaged in articulate dialogue"<BR/><BR/><BR/>What about the ones who go on the defensive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156079642928791092006-08-20T08:14:00.000-05:002006-08-20T08:14:00.000-05:00The thing is, I'm a moderate-conservative, and I c...The thing is, I'm a moderate-conservative, and I can STILL SEE that these people are close-minded idiots. Usually people who immediately go on the offensive like that do so because they actually aren't aware enough of the issues to be able to engaged in articulate dialogue -- therefore, the best defense is a good offense, right?<BR/><BR/>Sorry that you had to go through this. If it makes you feel any better (it probably doesn't), it reminded me of my boyfriend of three years, with whom I live -- my family likes him and my friends are sort of "eh", and I tend to agree with most of his opinions, but he doesn't always have the best way of stating them, and it usually ends up with me excusing myself and saying "Please stop, just stop," after a while. Poor guy. Can't believe he's put up with it for three years! ;-)<BR/><BR/>Hang in there. Loved the prom analogy. Found your blog through Voix.<BR/><BR/>~jessJessiferSeabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011040052433366321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156042990870350462006-08-19T22:03:00.000-05:002006-08-19T22:03:00.000-05:00To disagree is your right, but like my decision to...To disagree is your right, but like my decision to support the President, i have to back it up and fight for it too. This is not one sided. You have every right in this Country to speak you mind, but the rest of us don't have to agree with what you say. This is where the problem lies, you have both sides saying if you don't agree with us, you are against this Country. An example of this is the recent ousting of Joe Lieberman by his party. once ole Joe lost, his Party, the party he had been loyal to for years, except for his support of the war, told ole joe to "suck it". I've been in your shoes many times by supporting a few controversial subjects and I found out who my friends were. Hell, I pissed off everyone I worked with because i didn't agree with them. But I do agree with you on the source being the nonstop opinions that are being shoved down our throught by the 4th estate. Thats why I believe they are on there way out, People like you and me are sick of getting someones opinion every night, there is almost zero news on the big 3 and the cable counterparts. FOX at one time was my source, but even they have fell into the never ending opinion vortex. Eventually it will right itself eventually, you just have to believe in our Country to correct itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156034270301739942006-08-19T19:37:00.000-05:002006-08-19T19:37:00.000-05:00I do not deny that there are people who hate this ...I do not deny that there are people who hate this country. However, there is a difference between saying: "I hate America," and "I don't agree with the President's decision."<BR/>To paraphrase Worm, Blind patriotism is a dangerous thing.<BR/>I appreciate that the troops have protected us from the dangers, but I am also wary of how our country is functioning right now.<BR/>Fear is rampant. As long as we live in fear, life is not ok.<BR/>When I was in Germany a few years back, I watched as two gentlemen on German television debated Americia's involvement with Iraq. That was truly fair and balanced. Neither one questioned faith, patriotism, or stance. They merely debated the facts. <BR/>I want that here. I'm tired of beinig told that I hate the troops if I say they need more armor. How the hell does that mean I hate the troops? I want them safer. <BR/>The world is a vampire. The world is a vampire.Ironichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16566681411984508527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156033873094495662006-08-19T19:31:00.000-05:002006-08-19T19:31:00.000-05:00This past year and a half of living overseas has b...This past year and a half of living overseas has been an incredible awakening for my American opinions...<BR/><BR/>I'm no longer spoon fed one side of the news story, I don't have to be bombarded by uninformed coworkers and casual friends who believe everything they see on the TV, and I don't have to hold my tongue when criticizing the current administration.<BR/><BR/><B>Republican, Democrat, Black, or White - everyone should be able to see something is terribly wrong with our country.</B> <BR/><BR/>Until people start changing their own lives (consume less energy, avoid massive chain stores and shop in their local towns, analyze and interpret the news instead of swallowing the reporters opinions, etc) NOTHING will turn around.<BR/><BR/>Nobody is accountable, nobody cares, and the ones who want change aren't about to modify their lives to help the Cause (Yes, capital C - the free, unoppressed, at least somewhat transparent gov't we used to support).<BR/><BR/>Conspiracies aren't a bad thing! Discussing a conspiracy or a theory somehow makes someone a fanatic. <BR/><BR/>We need to change. We need to educate. We need to cut down on video games and MySpace. We need to eat more vegetables and less candy bars!<BR/><BR/>While living outside the US, I'm not surrounded by drones created by Fox News just because they like the flashy music and spinning graphics. <BR/><BR/>Incidentally, I heard 5 minutes of last week - they were comparing the New York Times to Al-Jazeera because they released conspiracy story about wire tapping! NYTimes is not a 'terrorist-friendly' organization just because they did their duty for once.<BR/><BR/>[End Rant]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156027253261839672006-08-19T17:40:00.000-05:002006-08-19T17:40:00.000-05:00First:Once a Marine, always a Marine, they do not ...First:Once a Marine, always a Marine, they do not abandon each other. This marine you know who lost his legs will be taken care of, it's not like the Military is just going to drop him off at his Moms house and say "cya". There are many organizations that are willing to help him after he is processed out, hell, he might even be allowed to stay in, it has happened. But ultimately it depends upon the individual willingness to pick himself up and carry on with life.<BR/>Second: There are people that DO hate America that live in this country. There are people who hate and loathe the Military, They hate what this Country stands for and they want us to be humiliated. These people do need to be called out, why should only people who protest this war be heard, why can they not be questioned? Sure there are pundits who do go over the top, but wether they are Conservative or Liberal, they are pasionate in what they believe and it their passion will always be challenged. Its when we are not free to question is when i will start to worry.<BR/>Third: I spent a good number of years questioning this government and what the United States stands for. After spending 6 years in the Navy changed This is the greatest Country in the World and the pewople who live here or wish to come here to live make it that way, no matter their beliefs, If you feel strongly one way or another, its up to you to support your side of the argument. I don't think your questioning this Marines decision or this Countries decisions recently are wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but so far ehis Country has been right for 200+ years, so I'll trust its course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11979512.post-1156024716556873192006-08-19T16:58:00.000-05:002006-08-19T16:58:00.000-05:00"My wife and her mom have been talking about us mo..."My wife and her mom have been talking about us moving down here."<BR/><BR/>Why? For Christ's sake, why? Just so mom can be closer to her grandchild? Great reason to leave a place like the Twin Cities for a backwards town like K.C.<BR/><BR/>Good Lord, Leab. What a nightmare. I know what it's like to be surrounded by people who think differently than you do. Of course, you and I are largely on different sides of the aisle.<BR/><BR/>That doesn't mean I agree with or can even tolerate kneejerk questioning of patriotism when a person dares voice a contrary opinion.<BR/><BR/>My favorite is Shaun Hannity. His fallback argument is exactly what you said: Why do you hate America? Why do you hate our troops?<BR/><BR/>Why do you hate CONVERSATION, Shaun?<BR/><BR/>Blind patriotism is more frightening to me than ill-informed protest. At least the latter can be mended through persuasion and information.<BR/><BR/>Come home.Arthur Willoughbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18123009851536675237noreply@blogger.com